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Old Jun 16, 2005, 06:10 PM // 18:10   #1
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Arrow Pre-Searing Updates Needed!!

I am not the only one who was disapointed that the armor sets from the collectors are not complete. We need to show intrest in this before the develepmental staff will dicide if it is worth fixing. (there words, not mine)

What I would like to see:

Necromancer's Tunic
- I sugest a collector in The Catacombs in the room where you find the courpse of the Prize Moa Bird. (they had a collector in there in beta)

Elementalist's Tunic
- There was a collector in Regent Valley near Fort Ranik. Sounds like a good enough place to me.

Mesmer's Gloves
- They were never included to my knowledge. I dont play a Mesmer Primary so I do not have any location sugestions for this item.

* Removal of duplicate Leather Vest (Ranger) *
- The collector in Ashford gives up two ranger items for Unatural Seeds. This is just unbalanced. One collector offering the Vest is enough. The vest should not be too easy, so I reccomend only keeping it on the collector near the bridge to Regent Valley

A little more lore would be nice. Maybee more than one quest in The Northlands. I also recomend a Final quest for Pre-Searing to get a nice weapon before leaving. Nothing too powerful, but make it profesion specific. Just a thought. It could reduce the temptation for new players to eBay for high-end weapons or for gold to get decent weapons and gear. Make the weapons have a very good ability that would make a level apropriate person desire it. A good example is the Longbow of Fortitude offered as a quest reward for The Hunter's Horn quest. It is the only Bow I know of with an incredibly valuble +5 to Energy. All rangers love this bow!

Just my thoughts.

Please share your thoughts to let the Development Staff know that just a few small changes can make a big diferance in the over-all game for new and veteral players.

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Old Jun 16, 2005, 06:40 PM // 18:40   #2
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I'd like to see an upgraded cap for my warrior...or is there a collector for that and I just haven't found him/her?(I've searched all of pre searing with my "uber-1337" lvl 10 warrior:P)
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 07:22 PM // 19:22   #3
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to my knowledge they have no upgrades to the headgear for any clas untill you get to post...
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 08:58 PM // 20:58   #4
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Dear Developers, Publishers, and whoever is actually a Decision Maker: Please spend time on other things, not pre-academy armor sets.

Thank you.
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 09:01 PM // 21:01   #5
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Dear Developers, Publishers, and whoever is actually a Decision Maker: Please spend time on other things, not pre-academy armor sets.

Thank you.
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 09:09 PM // 21:09   #6
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Pre-Searing should be complete, not incomplete. It makes some of the newer players fell like will if it is not worth the developers time to fix a few simple things, what makes me think they will fix things in the rest of the game?

I help alot of people through Pre-Searing quests on their way to the Acadomy. I always here the same replys when I tell them that the Necro & Elem Tunics are missing. "When are they going to put them back in?"

This is the only way for thier voices to be heard. Just becouse some people rush through the begining of the game does not mean that it should be compromized!
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 09:52 PM // 21:52   #7
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When I first got the game I spent a whole extra day looking for my Mesmer gloves. Maybe I'm just weird because I wanted a complete new set before I moved on.

I was new I didn't know that I'd be able to get new armor right away. Now I've moved on, my new characters don't have to have all the presearing armor but it is nice to have especially if you're low on money when moving over to post. I don't think it'd take a lot of time for the powers that be to put in a few more items at already existing collectors.
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 10:05 PM // 22:05   #8
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If they want to mess aroudn with armor in presearing, axe the collectors and put an armor seller in ascalon. There could be low requirements or money costs only.
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Old Jun 17, 2005, 02:29 AM // 02:29   #9
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I hope that the developers realize that there is a demand for the updates in Pre-Searing Ascalon. They are not big updates, just small ones. Ones to finish off the rounding out of young characters.

I look forward to more opinions...
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Old Jun 18, 2005, 06:22 AM // 06:22   #10
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Some on pointed out to me today (ingame) that there is a colector in Fort Ranik that does not have anything even offered any more. I can remember the NPC's name, but he collects Unnatural Seeds. He simply sais "I dont have anything to trade at this time". I remember traders doing that all the time during the Beta Weekend events. I was unaware that there were any traders left without something to trade. Maybee this would be a good one to just put the missing items on and complete the sets. It would only take just a few minutes to change the AI to offer the missing pieces.

It may not be as elaberate as my original sugestions, but at leased it would complete the sets for those who are looking.

Not one day goes by that some one does not ask ingame "where can I get" or "when are they going to fix it".
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Old Jun 18, 2005, 07:01 AM // 07:01   #11
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Yeah...I was wondering about that trader as well...but it never bugged me enough to say anything about it(I'm lazy, sorry :P)

Anyways, for the people who think pre-searing shouldn't be completed...
Why not?
I'm going to be spending my first 16 levels there, why shouldn't it be complete?
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Old Jun 18, 2005, 07:06 AM // 07:06   #12
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I'm going to be spending my first 16 levels there, why shouldn't it be complete?
Wow, you were there till level 16?
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Old Jun 18, 2005, 07:12 AM // 07:12   #13
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yes :P Only way to get to level 16 is...patience..time...and the level 10 charr bosses, which you get to fight 4 of when you load the northlands

you also need a helpful side kick who's willing to sit by at the gate to the northlands(reading a book or some such) while you kill the charr bosses, he leaves, you re-enter and it starts over again. Otherwise, you can only get to level 14 from the regular level 8 charr. What's funny, is you get to level 16, finish all the quests, and when you go post, you finish a quest in Ascalon city, and it says So-and-so is now level 17!

Kind of sucks how you cant compete in an arena until Kryta though
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Old Jun 18, 2005, 07:33 AM // 07:33   #14
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I know that I personally spend ALOT of time in Pre-Searing messing with builds. So far I have raised about 10 Characters to level 5 in Pre just to see if they are any fun. I think there needs to be a better foundation for the story set in Pre, but thats just me...
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Old Jun 18, 2005, 04:01 PM // 16:01   #15
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Thank you for some REAL feedback!!

I hate the people who post comments that undermine the theme of this thread. I love both Pre & Post Searing areas. I have 2 characters in each. I just would like to see the developers finish of the last few little things that players find wrong with the Pre-Searing area.

In an interesting note, I have now documented all the quest reward items in Pre, and will be posting them soon. Just for the people who would like to know.
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Thank you for some REAL feedback!!

I hate the people who post comments that undermine the theme of this thread. I love both Pre & Post Searing areas. I have 2 characters in each. I just would like to see the developers finish of the last few little things that players find wrong with the Pre-Searing area.

In an interesting note, I have now documented all the quest reward items in Pre, and will be posting them soon. Just for the people who would like to know.
And I hate the people that hate the people that post their opinion. Some of us would rather have real issues fixed that affect 95% of the game before time is spent fixing missing armors that are only used for about 5% of the game.
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Old Jun 18, 2005, 04:17 PM // 16:17   #17
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That coming from someone who posts on a thread only to bash it . "Hate the people that post their opinion" indeed.

Most people would prefer to have the entire game fixed up, rather than having problems shunted aside and left alone, never to be solved.
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Old Jun 18, 2005, 05:13 PM // 17:13   #18
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Yeah it is annoying that some of the collectors have no items for trade. Did they fix the collector in the entrance of the catacombs that wants gargalyole skulls?

I do agree that there should be some final quest, perhaps in the northlands to give a semi powerful weapon that's class specific.
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Old Jun 18, 2005, 06:17 PM // 18:17   #19
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I think each classes should get a head piece. Everything else is in, I belive.

And I think you shouldn't be able to rush pre-searing, too many people go post-searing at level 3... it urks me. (Yep, i'm a perfectionist... I had to complete ALL the pre-searing content for my mule character...)
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Old Jun 18, 2005, 09:09 PM // 21:09   #20
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I am glad that I am not the only one who feels obligated to finish all the quests in pre-searing before moving on. I do that for every character, even if I dont plan on keeping them long term.

Something craftible would be nice for Pre-Searing, as the craft items there are not really worth crafting. But I would like to see the small fixes before they do anything big.

Has anyone ever crafted a weapon? I know I have not. Is it auto-customized? It should be. Hmmm....
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